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> 15th November 2017 - Survey Results Discussion
Francis Ugondus
 Posted: Nov 15 2017, 08:09 PM
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Hey it's me! It's Francis Ugondus! The survey master! A week and a half ago, we opened up a survey for you all to take. We've gathered about 24 responses, which is about half the size of our community I think? I think it's a pretty good sample size to see how you are all feeling, and for this post, I'm gonna lay out everything in that survey so EVERYONE is on the same page, both the general community and the staff.

I'm not gonna talk about specific results and what not, but the general overall findings from the very negative to very positive responses we have gotten in this survey, and lay out some ideas for some solutions to problems and praise for what we're doing right and stuff. I will also break it down category by category as the same as the survey was, this unfortunately will be a bit of a longer post, I will have these sectioned into spoiler tags so you can look at specific categories.

Again, due to the nature of disclosing both negative and positive stuff, if people start witch hunting for who said what, that is not cool and we will take reports on it very seriously.

Let's begin!


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  Alright, so, suffice to say, the majority of the people who took the survey love the eFeds and stuff related to writing your OC's and stuff. That's probably seems a bit obvious to say but it's worth pointing out if I go over everything.


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  This one was a very polarizing section. People who responded to the survey really dislike us, really like us, or think we're just doing a fine job.

Anyway, here's the general breakdown for each team.

General Managers: The majority of responses believe we've been just doing a nice fine job. Not perfect mind you, but we're getting along steadily. Some other responses ranged from we could have done better on some issues to "we super fucked up this one thing", which I think has merit seeing it go down behind the scenes. Another thing brought up by some users was some conduct issues they felt with members from this team, and we encourage you to call it out if you see it.

Number Rating Average - 7.7

Community Managers: Again, majority thinks they've been doing okay, however I seen some responses that seem confused in what they do exactly, which is fair. We want to try and communicate what everyone's roles, not just theirs, in a more easier manner, which is why the #info-box channel went through an update. With that said, they will try to be more active than they previously were and try to find a sweet spot where it's not overbearing but you know what they're doing. If you want a nice list of what each staff team does, check the #info-box. The other complaint is similar to the what I wrote in the General Managers about doing a big fuck up.

Number Rating Average - 7.2

Content Managers: Majority of you are really happy with this team. I will go as far to say myself that they've been pretty great in my opinion! (no bias) (probably bias). You guys seem to know what they do and how well they do it. The one general thing brought up is that the team has slowed down on the YouTube front which they know, and I know Sam has the AES Advent Calender happening which should result in more activity. So, a goal here is to utilize the YouTubes more.

Also, seems you guys were pretty happy with Tan's addition, so I'm going to shout her out here. GO TAN!

Number Rating Average - 8.2

What Each Team Does: It's a bit half and half. We believe half of you know what each does and the other half don't, so as explained in the Community Manager bit, we added it to the #info-box channel on Discord.

Restructuring Opinion: Half of you have no opinion on the matter either due to joining the site when it just got into effect or just not paying attention, 3/8ths of you think it has been positive, thinking we have better focus, and 1/8th are unhappy with it due to belief that we haven't had better focus with it.

Restructing Opinion Average: 6.8

AES Rules: In principal, they're good, but they need both updating and better enforcement. A general complaint with the rules is that it feels like sometimes it can appear that we play favorites and not punish some people while others get the snap. I was one of the people who took the survey and expressed similar sentiment. I blame both our previous unorganization (which I believe we've found a solution by adding a task checkbox in the Staff Discord but we'll see how that goes) along with some lack of assertiveness. I believe this to be the top priority to fix because it can cause an feeling in people that we play favorites, which can lead to "oh man the staff can probably get away with everything too" which some responses on the survey by various people have indicated that this is a feeling of some members, and I think that needs to be rectified immediately. I don't think anyone wants to be on a site like that.

We will try to work on this the best we can. We will try to update these rules as well.

AES Rules Average Rating: 3.6


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  How Often Do You Watch eFeds?: The majority 1/3rd response was that the survey takers said they tried to watch as often as they could and catch up with the Network/VODs in the event they missed something. Not far behind is watching and catching up with stuff they're only personally interested in, then the other responses combined made up the last third.

How Often Do You Read Promos?: The majority answer here was only stuff they were interested in along with the 3rd highest being that same answer with the addition reading stuff for the fed they run. The 2nd majority answer is reading everything.

Favorite eFed Game?: Majority has no preference, 2nd highest was Fire Pro, then lower than that was Next Gen 2K.


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  How Well Do You Fit In? Average: 3.4
Majority of you feel like you fit in well, but it isn't like a commanding majority as there are a good chunk of survey people that feel below that average. I won't disclose much further than that.

How Do You Feel About The Size Of The Community?: You guys are pretty happy with the community size and either want it to be this size forever or just add a few more people.

Is there something you wish the community did more or less of?: This is the big one, the call out post of the whole website.

I'm gonna list some stuff at least multiple people pointed out and not singular ones or ones that contradict each other.

- More being respectful toward each other and less dumb fights over shit (like JINDER MAHAL).
- Less shitposting and bits.
- More communication and connecting and talking with each other and not splitting off into separate Discord servers.
- Less memes about real world events and other people's misfortunes.
- More people expressing their own honest feedback/opinions regardless if their positive or negative on promos, characters, ect. and not relying on more vocal members to be the only ones to do so.
- More varied streams/Synchtubes.
- More pro-activeness to do their own content i.e. their own analytical stuff like the Power Rankings and other stuff. Which kinda goes hand in hand with the honest feedback/opinions post.

There's a few more like more goofy efed stuff which contradicts with ones like more serious efed stuff so that's gonna cancel each other out. But, those are some that were repeated in the response.

What are your current feelings on the community?: The majority opinion in the responses say that you guys are pretty happy with the community in general. Obviously you won't mesh well with every single fuckin' person not just here but on Earth, which is something which was said by a good few, but that's just the nature of things isn't it?


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  Is there any feature you think you can add to the forums?: Majority of you guys didn't have ideas, however I'm gonna share some of the ones that are possible by people who aren't admins.

- A Superstar Of The Month type deal where we give an extra spotlight to a cool character and showcase them!
- A Masterpost that collects the major storylines from each federation in a brief readable summary of what's going on in a macro sense to help out new people.

Is there a subsection or subforum you want added to the forums?: Basically everyone said no, which is not surprising since the Discord has kinda overtaken the forums as a community hub. However, I would like to say every example in that question is a section already, and I saw some of you answering those. Kinda weird.

Is there any improvement you can think of that would benefit the forum?: Again, most said no or some minor tweaks that the admins could do like making the Discord link more visible or removing Chatango, however, there was another idea expressed in here that I will share.

- Maybe a super thread with links to "required reading/viewing" or best ofs so newbies can catch up or important fed stuff that's happened in the past without having to go dig for it. Maybe even a monthly event like /wooo/ used to do where they'd vote for their favourite matches of the past to be added to the /wooo/terion collection, except with AES matches, promos or entire shows, just to give new people a starting point to go off of.

Would you care for a revamp of the forum store we have?: Alright, I will be real. This is something I personally added in because at some point, I wanted to do it and I wanted to gauge interest. It's an even split between Yes, No, and Maybe. Since it's not an overwhelming yes, we'll probably focus on the other stuff listed in this survey first.


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  How necessary is being apart of the AES Discord?: A majority of you believe it's pretty necessary, though not completely because Big Man Sean is proof it's not 100%. It's also made it easier for people to connect rather than in the past in the Skype days.

Is there any channels you would like added to the AES Discord?: Everyone but two people said no, and one of those two people was me doing a joke. One person suggested a character-discussion channel, so if you guys want to add a character-discussion channel as that one person suggested, then you can think over it.

Is there any channels you would like removed from the AES Discord?: Certainly not the promo-discussion-and-feedback one. We heard you loud and clear on that and we will take the L. The other suggestions were merging the video game channels and either removing or merging the robot wars channels.


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  How do you feel about the AES Patreon?: Half of the responses are "we're too poor to donate", which is defo okay. I'm glad you made that choice instead of being financially irresponsible. Another few people were not interested and most of the others donated and were happy with it with an exception.

Do you have any ideas for new incentives?: Majority of you didn't have any ideas but one of them was commissioning art from actual artist people. That one might be a bit weird with artist's having different prices and Patreon tiers are static. But that's a good one to consider. One of you forgot your response and wanted a reminder to get back at us so here's the reminder if you're reading.

Do you think we should change or get rid of some incentives, and if so, which ones?: Majority of you again didn't have any ideas, but one of them was reworking or replacing the game streams one since Dan isn't really on the site anymore. Not a lot to say on this one.


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  Forums: 8.3
General comments: Search feature is a little butts and mobile site issues like spoiler tags not working.

Discord: 7.5
General comments: Mainly stuff already discussed in the community section.

eFed Streams: 8.7
General comments: Guys are doing good, however one lad would love another streamer.

Radio Armbar: 7.7
General comments: The majority of commenters either don't use it or don't use it much but find the thread useful and find it nice to have.

Synchtubes: 7.1
General comments: The majority of commenters want more of these. I think the site's members could be more proactive in just finding shit to watch. The @everyone and @here tags work in there for everyone for the sole purpose of letting everyone on the site host them whenever they want. Try to find something to watch with friends lads!

The AES Wiki!: 7.1
General comments: The majority of commenters are talking about either "I should update my stuff" or "stuff isn't updated". If more active, it could be a great resource but alas, the barrier to entry might feel real high. High potential but needs more work. Maybe having some people be dedicated Wiki contributors or something would help?

Anything we had in the past you want to be brought back or reworked, as for example, the stream page?: Majority again, had no ideas. But, here were some from the few that did.

- Custom emotes in the chat.
- Costume Contest where people dress up as e-Fed wrestlers (but not your own as to not be TOO EZ)
- Promo feedback raffle
- Someone misses the chat archives. Me too man.

Any COOL ideas for stuff to add on, as for example, the AES Wiki this year?: Again, majority didn't have any ideas, but here were some of them from those that did.

- Maybe a subsection on the Network for non-eFed things, like archived gaming streams, and another subsection for past Radio Armbar radio shows?

- I did suggest an "AESVEVO" type of thing where people can listen to people/show themes on YouTube or somewhere else where we don't get copyrighted. (I assume so you can also pick the songs you wanna listen to as well.)

- The stuff I said about a super thread of recommended/important promos, shows and matches would be neat. (this idea was above)

- I like the idea of the AES Network actually having a 24/7 stream on twitch with retro shows and specials would help bring the site new people.
-- Hi, Tan swooping in on Francis' nice write-up to provide an in-depth response to this one. The long answer is we can't do it directly as it would require a dedicated server (significantly beyond budget, sadly), but we're looking into what we can do without it being an actual stream. Twitch's vodcast feature is something we're planning on running some tests with in the near future, and we're given to understand that the feature will be expanded in the future to allow playlists to run on cycle, so watch this space!


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  How accessible is AES for new members? Average: 6.4
I think it's safe to say that this has always been one of the fundamentally challenging things to pull off the way this site has been structured for five years. While projects like the AES 300 which evolved into the AES Wiki have been efforts to solve this, along with more ideas to solve this issue up above like masterthreads, it's always been a huge undertaking. Plus there is the hurdle of learning what the community is like, what are some of these in-jokes??? What do these AES ads mean??? Plus there's been sentiment about how hard it is sometimes to get into some feds right as you join. Though places like TANW and JJBA seem to aim to aid in that.

The challenge is making that hurdle easier to get over.

How accessible is AES for Fed Heads? Average: 6.9
Now, I'm gonna be real, something's feels a lil weird about this one, as the most answered option was 5, followed by 10, and then 9, and then every other number outside of 6 has one vote each, supported by a good chunk of the comments saying "not a fed head, can't rate". I don't know if this average is accurate.

Regardless, the majority either said they didn't have a fed so they couldn't properly rate or that the process was easy, with other comments seemingly to be about personal issues they have faced. The only other thing pointed out was how AES's shared universe may make it hard for people to fully get into the site, which is fair, but however, DangerZone Wrestling Academy got off without a hitch so, if you wanna make a self contained fed, you're all invited to follow in that fed's footsteps sort to say and do your own crazy thing. I'd sign up for it!

How accessible is AES for Streamers? Average: 7.0
I feel this is another poll skewered by the amount of 5's given due to not having experience in it. Most comments usually go to "I don't know lol." Which is fair enough. The other comments have relayed about the ease of getting access to getting a streamer for their show or becoming one. There isn't much to talk about here.

How accessible is AES for starting your own community project? Average: 7.0
Unlike the previous two, I feel this is an accurate average. A good majority of comments seem to say "You just gotta start something and it'll usually work out" and that it's something that's encouraged, with one of you hoping to start your own thing! Which I encourage. There's also a small chunk that believes that you need to be perceived as popular to get any traction with it. We hope to keep encouraging those who want to do stuff like Power Rankings or take on the mantle of the Superstar of the Month idea, or something from the past like the Open Forum, and try to make it as easy as possible to start up and make it feel wanted, regardless of who you are.


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  Any concerns with anything in AES you want to address now?
Many of you said to have expressed your concerns that you've had earlier in the survey, such as the unenforcement of rules, the community being nicer to each other, more communication, admin conduct, and other issues brought up.

How was the survey and what can we do to improve on it for next time?
People thought it was long! I was like "eh it's not too bad" AND THEN I HAD TO WRITE UP THIS RECAP, IT TOOK TWO DAYS. I will definitely try to shorten it for next time. The other one was about the amount of mandatory responses. I will defend this option in that it was supposed to force you to try and think about it, and that in the survey description, putting "IDK" was a valid answer. However, that's something we can probably cut down on too, but this one will be a lil harder.

Now that's everything. mostly fully disclosed. Hopefully we can use this as a stepping stone into seeing what we can aims towards trying to change or what things we should stick to. The point of this survey was to find areas to grow in and do it with everyone having a voice instead of the staff team saying "oh well we can add a wiki or something" and that's that.

Obviously you can disagree with some of this survey people, or you might feel a little bit uncomfortable with some stuff that was disclosed, however, to make some change happen, you gotta feel uncomfortable sometimes. I hope you guys digest this with an open mind and ask yourself how this survey affects you and make your own personal decision on if you wanna do something with this survey, if anything at all.

With that said, thank you for taking the time to do this survey the last week or so! I hope this can be a very helpful tool to help with the guide to the future.

- Franco

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